"JeepJeremy" (jeepjeremy)
09/11/2015 at 20:38 • Filed to: None
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"JeepJeremy" (jeepjeremy)
09/11/2015 at 20:38 • Filed to: None | 5
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Ok Oppo. It’s Friday night. I brought my daughter, Arya, home tonight and she says “daddy let’s watch Star Trek”. *She’s 3 years old. This makes me happy.
My only option is Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
So we turn it on. I must say; I could write a book about how PERFECT this film is. Seriously....perfect in every way.
But...I’m in a very reflective mood tonight and a new element strikes me: Spock seems to have a sense of fate throughout the whole film. Almost like he knows how everything is going to play out.
Spock is a Vulcan. He’s an alien being of pure logic. My new theory is this: his death and his achievement of Kolinar (not recognized by the Vulcan high council) made him a non-corporeal, non-temporal entity. He is a spirit (for lack of a better word).
Evidence: he chooses to die, to sacrifice himself at the end of the film in order to save his crew mates. Why does he do this? How did he know?
Evidence: he tells Kirk “I have been, and always shall be...your friend”. There is huge meaning here. Spock means it in a non temporal fashion. An eternal fact.
Evidence: he guided the crew on a time travel expedition in Star Trek IV. How did he know how to do this? He dies and is reborn on planet Genesis. He even tells McCoy that they can’t have a discussion about death because McCoy has never died.
Evidence: there is also the fact that he mind melded with Vyger in Star Trek The Motion Picture. Could it be possible that he is granted time travel and/or an extra logical capacity for understanding from an entity that had transversed all of time and space?
Evidence: The Wrath of Khan is riddled with overlapping “no-win scenarios” in almost all aspects of the film. Could it be that Spock can see these overlapping scenarios and how they play out? That he knows and in fact CHEATS, like Kirk, to beat a no-win scenario? It’s coldly logical that how we face life is just as important as how we face death!
Evidence: in the new Star Trek film Spock time travels again. He is literally and figuratively an alien time traveler of pure logic from the future intervening in current events. And who else but a being of pure logic could hold itself together within its own universal time paradox?!??
-there is the huge significance of it being Kirk’s birthday at the beginning of Wrath Of Khan.
-he tells Lt. Savik in Star Trek VI that “logic is only the beginning of wisdom”
-he tells Kirk that “being a starship captain is your first, best destiny”. Does he see other destinys? Has he lived them? Destiny isn’t logical? right?!?
*ok I’m sorry, Oppo. I don’t have authorship on IO9 where this post belongs. To keep it car related: How about the Starship Enterprise being a “car”? Huh?
**Like I said, I’m in a reflective mood tonight. Humans are born and live and die every moment of every day. Are we collectively eternal?
***Arya lost interest and went to watch Mickey Mouse in her room.
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JeepJeremy
> JeepJeremy
09/11/2015 at 20:44 |
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I'm still grieving for the loss of Leonard Nimoy.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> JeepJeremy
09/11/2015 at 20:46 |
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Xylo and I both encourage and commit Trek posts here. There are probably others. I like this fan theory.
Agrajag
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/11/2015 at 21:35 |
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You can count me among them. Since the posting of this post I’m at S3E20. Some say you can watch too much Star Trek too quickly. I don’t believe them.
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Agrajag
> JeepJeremy
09/11/2015 at 21:45 |
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I like your theory.
Currently watching the Tin Man episode of TNG and just had the thought “what if Tin Man was Moya(300 some years older) from Farscape?”
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JeepJeremy
> Agrajag
09/11/2015 at 21:53 |
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I don’t know Farscape but have heard great things. The Tin Man episode of TNG is SOOOOO GREAT!
I like the element of “purpose” in that episode. The Tin Man having no purpose after losing its mortal crew. And the betazoid savant guy trying to escape/evade his “purpose” in life by finding what he is more truly apt at.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Agrajag
09/11/2015 at 21:56 |
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For your other living ship needs, check out
Fred Saberhagan
some time. Related to that, there was an *insanely* obscure reference to the Berserker series I caught in Mass Effect 2 that I’m probably one of like... 5 people that got. The Quarian ship the “Qwib Qwib”? That.
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Agrajag
> JeepJeremy
09/11/2015 at 22:02 |
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Definitely one of my favorites as well. One of the episodes I recorded onto a VHS many years ago.
On the subject of Farscape... WATCH IT!!!!!
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JeepJeremy
> Agrajag
09/11/2015 at 22:04 |
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I will do that! It’s high on my “to watch” list
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Agrajag
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/11/2015 at 22:07 |
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That sounds pretty cool. I’m making a run to a used book store this weekend. I’ll keep an eye out for them. Worth it for the Boris artwork alone.
Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious
> JeepJeremy
09/12/2015 at 00:21 |
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I am with you 100% on the perfection that is The Wrath of Khan. It is my all-time favorite film, and I can watch it endlessly.
It’s been a good litmus test as to whether a relationship is going to be serious or not; any woman I date for more than a month or two has to watch it with me. She’s only a keeper if she likes it; she’d better like it, because I’mma watch it several times a year.
DrJohannVegas
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
09/12/2015 at 00:36 |
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Agreed. I stepped away from my “rewatch all of TNG instead of working” marathon to make a similar point.
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JeepJeremy
> Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious
09/12/2015 at 01:05 |
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I agree with you, sir! If she doesn’t “get” Wrath of Khan then she understands NOTHING